Comments on: Rails or Merb, what’s best for you? http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you/ Rails experiments by Matt Aimonetti Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:05:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: malcontent http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1645 malcontent Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:10:00 +0000 http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you#comment-1645 do the same thing with ramaze and report the result do the same thing with ramaze and report the result

]]> By: ste http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1646 ste Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:10:00 +0000 http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you#comment-1646 Are you sure about AR not being threadsafe? I thought the thread-safety offender in Rails was ActionController, not AR. Anyway, there is one thing or two that Rails could learn from Merb; the first that comes to my mind is the double level of abstraction for controllers, which leads to a clean and flexible class structure (I'm thinking about ActionMailer and components...) Are you sure about AR not being threadsafe? I thought the thread-safety offender in Rails was ActionController, not AR.
Anyway, there is one thing or two that Rails could learn from Merb; the first that comes to my mind is the double level of abstraction for controllers, which leads to a clean and flexible class structure (I’m thinking about ActionMailer and components…)

]]> By: Lon http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1647 Lon Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:10:00 +0000 http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you#comment-1647 I have been playing with Merb since .4, porting small projects and comparing differences. At this point 1.0 can not come fast enough. The flexibility, speed, lower memory requirements and modular architecture make it a tasty treat that is truly less filling. I have been playing with Merb since .4, porting small projects and comparing differences. At this point 1.0 can not come fast enough.

The flexibility, speed, lower memory requirements and modular architecture make it a tasty treat that is truly less filling.

]]> By: Ben http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1648 Ben Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:10:00 +0000 http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you#comment-1648 I'm also interested in a ramaze benchmark. I’m also interested in a ramaze benchmark.

]]> By: Jon Wood http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1649 Jon Wood Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:10:00 +0000 http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you#comment-1649 ActiveRecord is thread safe - just set config.active_record.allow_concurrency in environment.rb (that maps to ActiveRecord::Base.allow_concurrency) After that you can quite happily use AR from as many threads as you feel like - I'm using it at the moment for a Rails app using DRb for long running tasks. ActiveRecord is thread safe – just set config.active_record.allow_concurrency in environment.rb (that maps to ActiveRecord::Base.allow_concurrency)

After that you can quite happily use AR from as many threads as you feel like – I’m using it at the moment for a Rails app using DRb for long running tasks.

]]> By: teki http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1650 teki Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:10:00 +0000 http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you#comment-1650 This one tells a different story: http://work.rowanhick.com/2008/02/12/how-to-avoid-hanging-yourself-with-rails/ This one tells a different story:
http://work.rowanhick.com/2008/02/12/how-to-avoid-hanging-yourself-with-rails/

]]> By: Matt Aimonetti http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1651 Matt Aimonetti Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:10:00 +0000 http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you#comment-1651 @Jon Wood. Many people (including Ezra) have reported weirdness happening when forcing AR to allow concurrency.Apparently sometimes you get records in result sets that come from other threads. People like Evan Phoenix and Wilson Bilkovich (Rubinius team) also recommend not to set AR this way since you have to manually close connections if you turn it on, and there's no cap on how many connections it will make. (it starts one connection per thread) @malcontent & @ben I'm sorry but I'm running out of time, Ramaze sounds interesting but since I'm benchmarking for a client's project I wanted to keep my tests to frameworks I believe will get enough momentum. If I find some time later on, I'll be glad to run the same test. @Jon Wood. Many people (including Ezra) have reported weirdness happening when forcing AR to allow concurrency.Apparently sometimes you get records in result sets that come from other threads. People like Evan Phoenix and Wilson Bilkovich (Rubinius team) also recommend not to set AR this way since you have to manually close connections if you turn it on, and there’s no cap on how many connections it will make. (it starts one connection per thread)

@malcontent & @ben I’m sorry but I’m running out of time, Ramaze sounds interesting but since I’m benchmarking for a client’s project I wanted to keep my tests to frameworks I believe will get enough momentum. If I find some time later on, I’ll be glad to run the same test.

]]> By: Mathijs Kwik http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1652 Mathijs Kwik Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:10:00 +0000 http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you#comment-1652 All I read about merb is only about performance, The projects I'm working on with rails aren't high-traffic. Performance issues almost never arise, and when they do, some simple caching does the trick. Are there any other good reasons to jump to merb except for performance? All I read about merb is only about performance,
The projects I’m working on with rails aren’t high-traffic.
Performance issues almost never arise, and when they do, some simple caching does the trick.

Are there any other good reasons to jump to merb except for performance?

]]> By: Matt Aimonetti http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1653 Matt Aimonetti Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:10:00 +0000 http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you#comment-1653 @Mathijs Not really, at least not at the moment. If you are familiar with Rails and happy with it, you should stick to it and re evaluate after 1.0 gets released. @Mathijs Not really, at least not at the moment. If you are familiar with Rails and happy with it, you should stick to it and re evaluate after 1.0 gets released.

]]> By: Waqas http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1654 Waqas Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:10:00 +0000 http://railsontherun.com/2008/04/10/rails-or-merb-what-s-best-for-you#comment-1654 Doesn't Merb contain 69% less magic than Rails? Merb is just a skeleton yet. Doesn’t Merb contain 69% less magic than Rails? Merb is just a skeleton yet.

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